Palm briefly confesses to Treo 680, 750 for Cingular
By Evan Blass 
posted Sep 22nd 2006 8:55PM
posted Sep 22nd 2006 8:55PM
Why is it that you have such a devil of a time keeping a lid on your product pipeline? It seems like in those precious few moments when your carriers aren't leaking documents describing unreleased Treos, you're doing it yourself. No bother; we already knew darned well Cingular would be getting a pair of new handsets from you, freshly freed of their pesky external antennas, in Palm OS and Windows Mobile flavors -- we just wish you'd make it a little more challenging to scoop the deets sometimes. Anyway, you've got a crowd of Palm fanatics anxiously awaiting your 680 and 750 here in the US, so let's get this show on the road, shall we?
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Engadget
[Thanks, William and Jon]
The insiders must have an easy time leaking product info using those treos with the built in cameras :)
I've bee waiting more than one year for a GSM unlocked version of a Treo running W Mobile... if this is true, then i'll have to wait only 6 more months.
Any idea of pricing?
Actually, rumored release is scheduled for October, not in six months.
I s it like the Q price or the overpriced 300 doller price tag
I WANT!!!! AS SOON AS IT GETS STATESIDE I'M UNLOCKING IT!!!
I've seen my next phone
By the time they release this there will be better stuff out there. They lost the chance at being the number one Smart Phone out on the market. They should have released the GSM version 6 Months ago, before stuff like the the HTC S620 became available. In this market the early bird gets the worm, and Palm has been sleeping late.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the HTC S620, while quite an impressive device, doesn't appear to have a touchscreen. A touchscreen and Palm OS are what will win people over to the 680. Too bad we won't be seeing WiFi on it. You're right though, the S620 does look appealing, with or without a touchscreen. It's no secret that Palm has been having troubles, mostly because of being bought out. That's put them quite a ways behind the competition.
Thought it would be worth mentioning that the 700w/wx/p have been selling like hotcakes despite their somewhat outdated specs.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. I could trade in my 700p for a windows-mobile based phone. But then again...I could also stab myself in the eye with a red hot soldering iron. I have absolutely no idea why anyone would want this piece of crap. I'd be willing to switch to symbian or a linux based system or maybe RIM. But WM...gawd. I can almost smell it's stench from here
Doc, My Treonaut (P) friends say the same thing, but no one can tell me what is the problem with WM. Please tell me? They love the Palm OS, but they also note it can be a bit of a pain synching it with a Windows world, apps, contact sw, etc... Is WM not touch screen? What's the big difference? why such a fan of Palm OS? and... Since the 750W apparently won't be out for a few more months (!), will I have to wait 10 MORE to get a 750P? Thanks. very interested in your thoughts on this.
Does anyone know if Cingular allows users to use a MiniSD WiFi card? For example, last treo I bought from Sprint did not allow me to use a wifi card because they blocked it. Does anyone know if a WiFi compatible MiniSD card would work, and we would not be charged for data transfer?
I heard mid-late November for the 750.
Why would anyone want this phone through Cingular? Is not Verizon the fastest data service available? When would a new Treo be out on Verizon? Also does using this type of phone GSM compared to buying one from the carrier it is made for affect performance, I bought the tiny gd55 a while back and when using it with t mobile had a crappy experience with it's voice mail.
on this web site there is some comments about this palm releasing verison for sprint and verizon and new reduced price!!!!
Well Verizon was the fastest but cingular is launching their 3G network that can not only compete but can sometimes exceed the speeds of verizon and sprint. Thats not even the best thing about cingulars new 3G netowork unlike verizon and sprint cingulars 3G can do data and voice at the same time at speeds up to 2.2 mbps. For exmaple use your phone with your laptop like a modem that will exceed speeds faster than a DSL connection while talking on the phone or sending text messages all at the same time. Look it up www.cingular.com/3g
I wish Nextel would get serious about their phones and not just their service.
I wonder how long it will take for the 750 to make it to Sprint?
I hope within the next year!!
Why oh why can't Palm make a 750 with the Palm OS? Not bashing on the WM users here, it's just a personal preference.
It would be nice if palm would take care of their OS/software as much as their hardware. I'm still waiting for a firmware update for my buggy 700p! As well as an update to the OS. I feel like I'm stuck in the 80's, only without the coke.
I have had Treo 650 for about a year and a half. I keep it in a leather case. Much of the fake silver/blue metal around the screen on the front has come off. I hope the 750 is better quality.
I keep my 650 in a $2 neoprene sunglasses case and it looks like new and dosent care about the odd drop.
The 680 looks cool, especially without the antenna nub. Maybe after it's been out for a bit, they'll add data to it and let Sprint users have some sans-nub Treo action.
People would want a Treo on Cingular for the fact that it is a GSM network. Not all of us want to be married to our phone for 2 years, ya know. Yes, Verizon may have the fastest network right now, but CDMA is maxed out as far as speed goes. Wait until Cingular rolls out UMTS. That will catch Cingular up to Verizon. And then, with the launch of HSDPA, Cingular will be the fastest network ever. Period. GSM pwns.
im with you. i keep looking at my 700wx thinking... wow this would look cool without the antenna. i hope this comes out for sprint/cdma some time soon
In response to Lee: HSDPA is already deployed in a few cities (very limited though). Verizon already has EVDO in a decent size area of the country. Last I heard, Cingular was dumping the older UMTS standards and going to all HSDPA, but Verizon has a big head start on them and Sprint also has a couple years ahead. HSDPA, btw is CDMA. GSM (as in Edge/GPRS and GSM 1.0) is TDMA. CDMA is more effecient and has better penitrating power than TDMA.
Cingular may be working to become the choice for high speed, but it will be a while before they have good coverage. I'm impatient. Besides...it's notlike I won't need a new phone by then anyway.
Actually, Cingular's 3G network, which has been rolled out in 17 or 18 select cities for the moment, has speeds up to 2 megabytes per second, and rivals Verizon's data Network. The new Treo 650, I believe they said will be 3G handsets.. which allow for broadband speeds on the internet and the ability to use data and voice simultaneously. A key difference between Cingular and Verizon is that if you leave a 3G area with Cingular, you'll automatically drop to the EDGE network without losing your connection. Also, Cingular uses GSM, which is global.
I'm sorry, I meant Treo 750 in my last post. I'm sitting here staring at my 650 as I type this.
that's exactly the point "Angel"... the GLOBAL aspect of GSM.
As soon as it's unlocked, I'll get one of those ASAP
I'll wait till they release a 480x320 (bare minimum) Treo.
I've been looking forward to the Palm 750 since the 700w was released on Verizon. I do love the form factor of the Treo. I hope they address the lack of built-in memory though. Why Cingular does not partner with SlingMedia I wil never know. What better way to promote a 3G and DSL package all-in-one. This is the killer app that would get people to use these services.
I agree here too...a 750 with the palm OS would be nice...then again, the antenna nub is not really that much of a pain.
I'd rather get a MOTOKRZR or Nokia N93 instead. I have Dell Axim for my WM5 work, so I don't need a smartphone for that stuff. Besides, these phones are crappy CPU power, so they can't connect to a projector anything, so I still have to carry either a laptop (with exploding batteries =D ) or a PDA which takes the point out of getting a smartphone.
Angel, you receive 2 megaBIT downloads, not megaBYTE. Big difference.
Benjy, no one "blocked" using WiFi cards in the Treo 650 -- Palm never wrote a WiFi driver for it. Also, if you were able to get WiFi capability on a Treo, the carrier could not know you were using it; *obviously* you wouldn't (and couldn't) be charged for it.
How many years until these are on a Canadian carrier? (The 700's still aren't with anyone)
Sweetness.
I want it.
Bad...
now.
*rubs hands together*
I just got an e-mail back from my Cingular Business Rep. and she is hoping for a Nov/Dec release date.
anybody know whether the 750 and 680 will be coming out first only on Cingular or will Sprint get them at the same time?
So, here's a question for us corporate/USG folk:
Will there be 4 versions of these new Treos? Two PalmOS, Two WM5, with a cameraless version for both OS?
Call us what you want, but above all the military has this aversion to cameraphones, and rightfully so...
Is Cingular going to offer a 750 with the Palm OS rather than Windows?
no....the 750 will be Windows based while the 680 will be the cheaper of the two new treos running Palm..........
I just want to know when the damn thing will be released.......There are too many rumors out there. Why the hell is Cingular hiding this so much.....?
So, does anyone think they will come out with a 750 version for CDMA networks, like Verizon? Also, any word on if Palm will drop non-GSM carriers so they can stick with the international customers and forget the rest of us?
Ok so does anyone know when Cingular will have the Treo 680 or 750. Preferably the 680...??
The Cingular folks tell me that the 680 should be available in a matter of weeks.
I have been holding onto my 600 waiting for a phone to induce me to buy. I am currently with Sprint (I am in Real Estate Develepment, and with a lot of subcontractors being on Nextel, I save close to 3000 minutes a month with my Sprint to Sprint/Nextel minutes). Sprint currently has the 700. From what I can tell, there is not a huge upgrade between the 700 and 750 besides form and the antenna. Would everyone's advice to be just stick with sprint and go for the 700?
Cingular will have the Treo 750 out Jan 8 2007. I have about 8 dead Treo 650's on my desk. We are exiting the Treo/Palm world. I have tested the Nokia E62, HP iPAQ 6925, Blackjack. There are pros and cons for all 3 OS's. I prefer the iPAQ 6925, for features (including wifi and GPS) and Cell Phone service. The size is not great but a small device means a small screen and buttons.
I got a 680 on 12/15, I am returning it and trading it for either the 750 that Cingular is supposed to release next week or a BlackJack. I did not see a noticable difference in performance between a 650 and a 680. However I did see a drastic difference in battery life. I charged my 650 1-2 times a week. The 680 needed to be charged every other day if I didn't turn bluetooth on, it had to be charged daily with bluetooth on. I'm not a power user, I use it mostly to keep contacts organized and to make sure I don't miss appointments.
Hopefully Palm has added a Prefenence to increase the audible tone on the dial pad to allow the user to hear each digit dialed. Currently the tone is hardly audible in a library much less the real world. Dailing is VERY FUSTRATING without hearing on the 700p ..............
Has anyone out there had both the PalmOS and Windows versions? Wondering what flavor has the other beat and why. My Nokia N91 despite its 1000+ MP3s, is quirky and hangs for long periods of time, like my yellow tuxedo. Nothing like taking a long distance call from the boss and have the cp hang. Oops, happened again. Nobody mentioned whether this treo freezes as well? Lastly has anyone else had the funky colors rub off on the edges and is it noticable on the gray version? Hmmm, now where's the joystick port...